An astrological influence in Asperger’s / autism?

This may seem like kind of an odd post.  But I turned 39 yesterday, it’s the last year of what has been a vivid, intense, and pivotal decade for me, so I’m feeling fairly reflective today, and besides–astrology is one of my primary interests (AKA “special interests”). 🙂

I’ve studied astrology actively since 1993.  In high school, I wrote my English Composition term paper on the subject.  It’s vast and I’m by no means (at all) an expert of any kind, but I usually know enough to get by.

It wasn’t always this way.  I was skeptical at first.  Very skeptical.  But then I thought it’d be wise for me to at least be semi-educated in something before dashing it and writing it off, so I decided to keep a neutral mind and look into it.

I started with my own chart first; after all, no one knows you better than yourself, and figured I’d be able to tell if the astrology field was pulling my leg or not.

What I found initially sent chills down my spine.  (How did they know??)

Fast-forward 23 years: I discover I’m actually Aspie/autistic.  And looking at my chart, my only reaction is “well, duh…”  Aspie clues were all over the place.

There’s no one “determining factor” or “perfect model chart” that all Aspie/autistic people share in common…at least, not that I know of.  It’s more like genetics and development; it’s a whole package, in which numerous elements all have their part/role.

Here’s mine (I used the AstroLab free generator, which is very accurate; I’ve had my chart cast several times, and it always comes up like this):

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For the descriptions, I drew my information from several sources at once.  And no, these aren’t the descriptions that are so general and vague that they “could fit anybody”; they’re actually pretty specific. 🙂

I’ll copy-paste the text from the more detailed site (you saw that coming, right? I’m a Virgo, after all!), but for brevity, I’ve focused on the characteristics from each description that apply to my (relatively-textbook-Aspie) case, with the main ideas/words/concepts highlighted in green.

(Notes: 1) the text is really long, so I did some trimming and editing, none of which will take much away from the main ideas; 2) some of the descriptions are contradictory, and not all descriptions will hold true for everyone with that finding; this is normal, and indicates variable or different tendencies, based on specific factors or situations.  When trying to anticipate what the general default tendency will be, just look for multiple findings that echo the same “theme”; the stronger that “theme”, the stronger the characteristic/tendency.)

Sun in Virgo: Keywords: analytical, intelligent, reserved, critical, helpful, conscientious

Extremely careful and cautious by nature, you value neatness and order above all else. You rigorously practice high standards of living and conduct and you demand the same of everyone with whom you come into contact. At times, you are so supercritical that you are nit-picky. Extremely methodical and analytical, you are a perfectionist — this makes you the perfect person to carry out highly detailed, precise operations. But, at times, you pay so much attention to details that you lose sight of the larger issues.

Sun Conjunct Mercury:

Because your ego and your mind are aligned, you possess much mental energy.  You are highly intelligent with a drive to communicate with others.  You invest a lot of pride in your intellectual capacities.  You may not always listen as well as you speak, however!  You might be too busy thinking about what to say next.  But you are very curious and although you enjoy expressing yourself, you usually don’t dominate conversations completely.  As far as studying or learning goes, you are better off looking at the material than listening to a teacher.  It is very hard for you to passively listen and absorb information.

Sun Square Neptune:

A day-dreamer and idealist.  You struggle with defining who you are. You may struggle with early conditioning that made you feel tossed aside or neglected in some way, and certainly not directed or supported.  You are very sensitive, especially with regards to any real or imagined blows to your ego.  If the natal chart shows a strong sense of reality and a robust mind (Mercury and Saturn well-placed, for example), the negative interpretations of this aspect are less extreme.  It is useful to be able to connect any escapist or self-destructive behaviors with their probable source, which is likely to be a weakly-defined ego and identity in childhood.

The Moon represents the emotional responses, unconscious pre-destination, and the self-image.

Moon in Taurus:

Familiarity is crucial to these people.  They are earthy and strong-willed.  They feel with their senses and they are pretty much rooted in their ways.  They revel in material comforts–in fact, building a solid and comfortable home and foundation helps to keep them feeling safe and content.

It isn’t wise to try to push them into doing anything, but once they have made a commitment, they’re persevering.  There’s a steadiness to this position of the Moon that is comforting to those close to them.  But the conservative streak in these natives can be maddening to more progressive personalities.  They tend to go out of their way to avoid “messy” or unpredictable situations, crises, and emotional displays.  Instead, they focus on creating a reliable and secure life around them.

There is a serenity to them that is calming.  In fact, it takes a lot to really get to them.  However, they do get off-center every once in a while.  They are not the most adaptable people when their own routine is interrupted, for example.  Though some might be considered anal, most simply have a stubborn streak that keeps them rather resistant to change.  Rarely are they spontaneous sorts.  Uncomfortable with surprises, these natives value stability.  Their needs are strong but quite simple at the same time. The world of the five senses is all-important to these natives.  Their love of stability and steadiness can make them slaves to routine. However, they are loyal and capable people.

Moon in VIII (8th House):

While you have a strong need for emotional security, you are also a person who is drawn to pushing your own limits, and many lifestyle changes can be the result of this need to challenge, or reinvent, yourself emotionally.  You are always fascinated with how people work, taboos, secrets, and all that is forbidden or hidden.  You are a person who is intimate, deep, and intensely loyal to a partner.

Moon Square Venus:

Because you value harmony, you may find yourself giving in to others too easily, especially in the first half of life.  Resentment is possible, as you can feel that you are the one who seems to do all the acquiescing.  There can be a distinct tendency to become friends with people too readily, simply because there is a strong need for approval and a hunger for receiving affection.  Peace and harmony are important to you–perhaps too much so, as you can easily be taken advantage of.  Insecurity is something that you need to deal with at some point in your life.

Moon Opposition Uranus:

There’s a feverish, non-constructive restlessness.  This may make you too susceptible.  Your life is full of change.  You can become irritable and stubborn at times due to an inner restlessness that is hard to satisfy.  You may have difficulty concentrating on a job.  Nervous strain.  You may be prone to mood swings.

Mercury represents communication, thought processing style, and logical spirit.

Mercury in Virgo:

You discuss, deduce, and judge.  You reason logically and accurately.  You tend to spend a lot of time on practical matters and keeping things in order.  Sometimes nit-picky and nervous, occasionally secretly feeling that you handle matters better than others.

Mercury in XII (12th House):

You often have difficulty expressing yourself, especially when young.  You may not talk much, and typically don’t speak just for the sake of it.  You work best in remote and quiet places.  You’re discrete and philosophical.

You’re not always quick to speak or communicate, especially in childhood, as you need to develop trust in your own abilities to express yourself.  You make an excellent confidante–you are very discreet and secrets go into the vault.  You might make matters too complex by over-analyzing motives or hunches, and then have problems acting on your intuition as a result.  You are very attracted to symbols, sentiment, imagery, and paradoxes.  You prefer not to focus on facts and learn best when ideas are presented visually, emotionally, or imaginatively.  Learning to communicate clearly is a challenge for you, but one that might put an end to feelings of guilt, of being misunderstood, and to attracting unpleasant situations or duplicitous people into your experience.

Mercury Square Neptune:

You are happy in your dreamworldConfronted by reality, you can be hesitant, incapable of being tested and fall back into your imaginary world.

Mercury Retrograde (a huge Introvert factor):

When Mercury is retrograde at birth, the thinking processes are generally more acute, and the sense of humor rather quirky.  People with Mercury retrograde take in information differently than those with Mercury direct in their natal charts.  How many people are born with a retrograde Mercury? Roughly 18%.

Some people with this position struggle with doubts about their perceptions or their ability to learn, and there can be a lot of thinking, double-checking, and reviewing of thoughts and ideas before communicating them.

Venus represents an interest for emotions and values, exchange and sharing with others.

Venus in Leo:

Sincere, frank and warm affections; full of tenderness.  High hopes in love.  Very warm-hearted and generous with loved ones.

Venus in X (10th House):

Your best years are in the parental home and also the last years of life.  That said, the rest are not unhappy, but contain certain hurdles.  Others tend to respect you for your charming manner, and you have many admirers, although some of these are admirers from afar, as there is an aura about you that is charming yet strangely (and intriguingly) distant.  You have a great need to be recognized or admired for your charm, beauty, or loving manner, but should be careful not to become too wrapped up in what others think of you, as you might come across as phony or superficial. Some people with this position are “married” to their work.

Venus Trine Neptune:

At times, your professional life may be unstable. You have a taste for the Arts, are a dreamer, are easily influenced and romantic.  You’re emotional and very sensitiveCreative, gentle, and adaptable, you naturally express the finer qualities of mysterious and dreamy Neptune in your love relationships.  Your imagination is rich and your fantasy world well-developed. You are turned off by rudeness and crudeness, and are drawn to beauty in its many forms. You are very giving and generous, but may be a little on the submissive side, failing to take the initiative when situations call for it.

Mars represents the desire for action and physical energy.

Mars in Cancer:

These people seem to resist change and to shy away from direct confrontations.  They need to feel secure before they act; as a result, they can appear rather slow at times.  They may appear weak to some, but they can be very strong.  Their strength lies in their tenaciousness.  The protective nature of Cancer is best expressed when Mars in Cancer natives are turning the energy outward–when they are being the protectors of others.  Turning it inwards is what creates problems.  They can have defensive reactions and bursts of emotional displays when feeling cornered.

Mars in IX (9th House):

Deeply rooted opinions, which you know how to defend energetically.  At a certain moment of life, you can fight for a particular ideal but might abandon it along the way, being less convinced than at the beginning of its virtue or because you realize that it is a losing battle.

Jupiter represents expansion and grace.

Jupiter in Cancer: – These people attract most good fortune when they are sympathetic, charitable, use their powers to save and accumulate, and comfort others.  Real estate and the food industry can be prosperous avenues.  Value tradition and work towards security.  Rely mostly on gut instincts when it comes to pursuing goals and business success.

Jupiter Trine Uranus: – These people know what’s going on at a glance.  They thirst after knowledge, and tend to be good organizers.

Saturn represents contraction and effort.

Saturn in XI (11th House):

These people appreciate the company of older people of intelligence and good counsel.  These will help success in professional life.  Usually have few friends and may have difficulty in finding a partner.  Can be very reserved and shy.

Uranus represents individual liberty, egoistic liberty.

Uranus in Scorpio: – Intelligent and subtle.  Adores research, inquiry, investigation.

Uranus in II (2nd House): – Work environment may be variable.  Insists on complete autonomy and freedom; unhappy when micromanaged.  May be suitable for self-employment.

Neptune represents transcendental liberty, non-egoistic liberty.

Neptune in Sagittarius: – Likes traveling long distances in a relaxed manner.  Drawn to the foreign and exotic.

Neptune in III (3rd House): – Has a lot of imagination, high ideals.  Can be nostalgic.  Dry, cold facts are hard for them to absorb, so traditional academics might not appeal.

Pluto in Libra: – Looks for new ways to relate to others.

Pluto Conjunct Ascendant: – Often “loners” who feel keenly different from those around them.  One thing these people do exceptionally well is get to the heart of the matter.  You don’t beat around the bush or play games, for you don’t have time or patience for such frivolous pursuits.  You’re able to read between the lines of any messy situation and see what’s really going on behind the scenes.  You don’t accept anything at face value, which makes you incredibly perceptive.  That’s how you prevent people from taking advantage of you, so believe in your ability to cut through all the lies and tricks in the world.

House I is the area of self identity.  The ascendant is a symbol of how one acts in life.  It is the image of the personality as seen by others, and the attitude that one has towards life.

Ascendant in Libra: – Look a little closer at their lives, and these nice people may have had quite a few problems in their relationships.  These natives attract others to them effortlessly. Besides, they simply don’t know what to do with themselves without a significant other. Libra rising generally appear to be smoothing everything over.

House II is the area of material security and values. It rules money and personal finances, sense of self-worth and basic values, personal possessions.

House II in Scorpio: – Financial success may come through handling other people’s money and resources or thanks to an inheritance.  Financial ups and downs are very possible, but in later life, finances can be substantial.  Private about revealing their worth.

House III is the area of social and intellectual learning.

House III in Sagittarius: – People with this finding often study for a long time, and may be erudite.  Very intelligent, an open and independent spirit, will have a connection with foreign countries.  Fertile intelligence.

House IV is the area of home, family, roots, and deep emotions/sense of self-worth.

House IV in Capricorn: – After working all your life to obtain your objectives and finally having reached that goal, you may want to retire in peace and quiet and to have a retirement full of contemplation, with few tasks, close to nature.  As you’ve been very careful with money all your life, you will administer the properties you’ve acquired.

House V is the area of creative self-expression, romance, entertainment, children, and/or any other joint creations.

House V in Aquarius: – Doesn’t like routine and the banal.  Often romantic, full of fantasy and imagination.  Definitely a friend one can count on.  May choose to adopt children instead of creating them, or may choose not to have children altogether.

House VI is the area of learning by material transaction.

House VI in Pisces: – Job in commerce.

House VII is the area of one-to-one relationships such as marriage and partnership, and of social and intellectual action.

House VII in Aries: – Often doesn’t want to change life/domestic habits, so domestic quarrels are common.

House VIII is the area of emotional security and of security of the soul.

House VIII in Taurus: – Happy old age, natural death. (OK, cool!)

House IX is the area of learning that shapes the identity.

House IX in Gemini: – Likes studying, is open to anything new, accepts and recognizes their errors, always develops in a positive sense.  Likes travel, discovery, meeting new people and knows how to appreciate them.

House X is the area of material action. The Mid-heaven represents the work one will do in life, the place one will take in the world of society.  It becomes more important as one grows older

House X in Cancer: – Professional success thanks to sense of duty and application to their work.

House XI is the area of search for social and intellectual security.

House XI in Leo: – Friends are not always chosen by chance.  Even if the feelings of friendship are sincere, these friends must automatically bring something – professional help for example.

House XII is the area of education and of emotion.

House XII in Virgo: – Work in a research lab.

(Regarding the last line: Seriously…they said that.) 🙂

Well, I think this is my longest post to date, so if you’ve read this far, kudos and thank you! ❤

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    1. Thank you! I’m so happy you enjoyed 😊. (And I’m very sorry for my delay in replying! I think my WordPress app is getting increasingly flaky 😳). How cool! Wonder how “twin-like” we might be? 😊💞

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  1. Good Morning to all of You, I’ll speak about my autism, Asperger, my Asperger, Autism diagnosis and astrology.

    Thanks a lot, this is the best blog in internet.
    So I’m Lorenzo, Autistic, born 20 08 1959 10.00 am in Milan Italy,
    I have just discovered diagnosis of autism by means of astrology, I’m grateful to all of You. I have 4 planets sun pluto venus mars in XI house, Temple Grandin has got a 3 planets stellium in XI house of natal chart wheel. I’ve got in Leo, Mercure and Uranus and the sun, I’m a leo. Due to all the planets in Virgo i’m now under attack by saturn in Sagittarius which might harm my pluto in Virgo, this can mean system bringing trouble to me , outsider.

    This should end by december 31 2017. Another point: My moon in pisces attacks Mars in Virgo, I’m a total warrior.

    My Neptune makes a strong square, neptune is in scorpio the square is with mercure in leo this means telepathy and a bit of paranoia. I’m slightly telepathic. I dreamt of the dead of Pope Luciani, I wrote a post in FB not accepting the theories of Pope Ratzinger and half an hour later he gave dismissions / dismissal / quit the job.
    So what Have I done? I have taken 20 profiles with natal data date month year day of birth, place of birth, birth hour, of 20 Aspies I esteem. Among them: my father, engineer, my uncle, engineering professor, Temple Grandin, Alan Turing, Any Warhol, The very famous Silent wave blogger, 🙂 🙂 :), So for each person I took the natal wheel chart and the natal wheel comments, just for a couple I didn’t know the exact hour of birth and I assumed it was noon, I was quite careful. I list the subjects:
    Lorenzo Zucchelli, me
    Luigi Zucchelli engineer my father
    ALBERTO ZUCCHELLI MY UNCLE ENGINEERING PROFESSOR
    PROF DR TEMPLE GRANDIN
    Prof ALAN TURING the destroyer of Enigma, blessed be his soul
    The Silent Wave Blogger
    5 young Aspies of a friendly Association, the five subjects where chosen by random criteria
    Renée UK London an Autistic cited in Internet
    Glendale AUTISTIC
    ATLANTIC CITY AUTISTIC
    Honolulu autistic
    Anchorage Autistic
    4 friends of mine who are autistic

    Well the sum was 20 people all autistic

    Please keep calm, just try to read until you reach the end please

    I calculated for all tha natal wheel chart and wrote down the natal theme text list.

    I made a tabel, a xls document

    1st colum the 20 names

    1st horizontal line the number and the name of the 12 houses of the natal wheel sky

    in the cases what did I write?

    I wrote in the xls tabel

    which planets where for the cited person in the cited house of the sky of the natal wheel chart.

    Temple Grandin has got Sum Venus and Mercure in Eleventh house

    my uncle albertus has got saturn sun mercure and pluto in tenth house

    and so on

    What tells astrology Lisa Morpurgo the nr 1 astrologist in Italy?

    If natal wheel chart planets are on the left , the person is withdrawn from friendship and people, if planets are on upper half of the sky the person is far away from a “frozen” mother. Well ghasp I’ve 3-4 planets in eleventh house like Temple Grandin, this is called stellium and is source of very strong stress adrenaline cortisol noradrenaline, Ghasp! Amazing, lack of oxytocyn, troubles with serotonine, …. and eleventh hous is hous of cold relationships, random links, total rationality.

    So Stellium in eleventh house is the first marker of autism, but I noticed:

    I made a second xls document

    12 colums, each column for a house of the sky of the natal wheel chart

    i listed just in each column the planet list of the planets i’d found in the first xls document,

    so i’d found in “house 1” 3 neptunes, 3 jupiter, 2 moons, 2 mars, & so on

    in first house of sky of natal wheel of autistics I’ve found 12 planes, in second 8

    in third 10 in fourth 12 in fifth 10 in sixth 9, in seventh: 7 in eight: 5 in ninth: 10

    in TENTH: 19 planets, a great amount of planets (!!!) (:),

    in XI house 22 planets (autism marker),

    in XII house 18 planets. Ghasp a lot of planets in X XI XII, the sum was so much as 20 planets for each of these three houses, other houses have just scored between 5 an 10 planets.

    Oh My Lord what a sum of planets in the upper left corner, far from “warm mum” far from friends (marker)

    Now I took a masterpiece, a great book of astrology, for each combination I had found i evaluated one question:

    is this combination (planet versus house of the natal wheel) a frequent combination in autistic people? Frequent: at lest found three times or more. Unfrequent: zero, 1, 2 times.

    I found 22 frequent combinations.

    These 22 frequent combinations (planets/houses in natal wheel of autistics) are the following:

    in first house: neptune, jupiter
    in 2nd: jupiter
    in third: saturn
    in fourth: moon, saturn, pluto
    in 5th: jupiter moon uranus
    in 6th house: neptune, uranus
    in 7th house: only moon in seventh house, 7th house is the house of wedding, an odd topic for some autistics, there are few planets in 7th house

    In 8th house: no frequent planets (house of death, no meaning for Aspies)
    In 9th house: uranus
    in tenth house: seven times mercury (ghasp) ; i.e.: 10th house, house of indipendence (!!!) a marker of autism
    always in 11th house: 3 suns and so much as 5 uranus

    in ELEVENTH HIOUSE (COLD LINKS, random house, house of aquarius) :

    I was astonished, I had found

    3 moons, 3 mars, 4 mercuries, 3 pluto (autistic planet), 5 suns

    in XII th house: ( the highest ideal’s house): 3 jupiter, 3 mars, 3 mercuries, 4 suns

    The meaning of houses is

    1 the ego
    2 the beginning
    3 the social matters
    4 the home country, homeland, i have no planets
    5 energy
    6 rules and laws, I have no planets
    7 wedding, I have no planets
    8 death, I have no planets in my natal wheel
    9 travels
    10 indipendence I’ ve got mars I’m an indipendence warrior, I use project like Patton used tanks
    11 cold contacts, random, autism
    12 highest ideal issues

    so 10, 11, 12, this is the core of autism,

    So 4 6 7 8 this means nothing to many Aspies

    Do You follow me?

    I have studied this on midnight on 31st december 2016

    I switched on TV, they were singing “Emotion has no voice”

    I almost cried

    telepathy

    Ganesha advised me: put on an armour, with this matter the system will attack you; a fine armour should do

    on 26 february anular eclypsis of sun, my planets in Virgo 11 house have as cosignificant Aquarius, I’m almost aquarius, meaning of the eclypsis: You aquarius reached unforeseen new topics, this will mean somebody will attack you

    So I took a glance at the meaning of combinations found to be frequent in natal wheel charts of autistics: the meanings were amazing

    they are / (read on Lisa Morpurgo Introduction to Astrology, Nr One astrology book in Italy)

    neptune house 1 : _> upper reality invisible to most people, neurosis
    jupiter zeus house 1 :the ego expand to the maximum, but there is risk of great missing topics in life
    jupiter house 2 : exhaltated ,very rich, meets barriers
    saturn in 3rd house: no brothers, lonely, anti-social, no-one understands him
    moon in fourth: means: looks for oxytocin ans warmth, a cuddle, a warm nest, artist, victim of family
    saturn in 4rthg: no parents, isolated, no joy, sad, fatigue, tiring life, rational
    pluto in 4rth: means: GENIUS, OUTSIDER, STANDS AGAINST FAMILY, BLACK SHEEP
    JUPITER ZEUS IN FIFTH HOUSE: INTRUSIVE STALKER, HEAVY WHEN TALKING, FINDS BARRIERS, PROFESSOR
    moon in 5th house: romantic, sensitive, broken hearth, false understandings
    uranus 5 house: today, not tomorrow, irruent, swift, quick, outsider, anticipates findings
    neptune in 6th: art, creative, neurosys, metamorphoses, does not tolerate surroundings
    uranus in 6th: means: dynamic, hand skills, today is all, strike against bosses , indipendent

    moon in 7th house means: looks for supports, some AFFECTIVE HELP, NEUROSIS, BROKEN HEARTH

    no planets in 8 house where frequent (no planet was found frequently in 8th house in 20 people): means: REFUSES SOCIETY , IS NOT A POLITICAL LEADER, (!) 🙂 NO EMPATHIC LEADERSHIP

    uranus in 9th means: researcher, looks for findings, unusual, a brain made of marble
    mercury in Xth house: away from family, highest IQ QI, indipendent
    uranus in 10th: dinamic, quick, moves, outsider, technical, details obsessed, doesn’t accept ideas of others

    sun in tenth house means: total indipendence, no tradition, tradition refusal, no links, links are bondages, genius of indipendence

    moon in eleventh means: psychic troubkles, no friends

    mars in 11th house in natal wheel chart means (this is my marker): global warrior, aggressive, projects like battles

    pluto in 11th like I do possess: means: genius, odd , eccentric, secret

    sun in XII house: means: outsider, no routine, loner, original introverted
    jupiter in XII house means: lonely, seems to other sad, refuses life,… misantrope, fragile
    mars in XII house: means: atheistic, war against highest values, highest war, destroys, anarchist
    mercury in XII means: paradox, high IQ devoted to highest ideals, humour, outsider, not diplomatic

    Wow!!

    well

    there are more or less 10 planets, there are 12 houses, there are more or less 120 combinations of planets in houses in natal wheel chart natal theme population, out of which only 22 combinations are highly frequent in autistics, THIS IS THE CORE OF TGE STUDY, the telepathy. The intuition.

    I am INTY in Myers Briggs test, intuitive.

    It’s not a planet
    It’s not a house
    it’s that there are 22 combinations of planets and houses in the natal chart which are frequent and typical of autism. The comment is made by itself, when I read the meaning of these 22 combinations found more than twice in the 20 profiles of autistic peolpe I undesrtand that THESE ARE THE MARKERS OF AUTISM IN VERY EARLY BIRTH DIAGNOSIS OF AUTISM, … !!!

    a child is born, we make the natal wheel chart and natal theme, we calculate how many marker combinations are present for this young baby. Life is getting started… there might be autism, we discover this one hour after birth. Odd amazing

    WOW. How come? Thanks a lot dear Silent wave blogger! it’s You assist! I guess You knew it!

    I am grateful To Dr Prof Rozzolatti researcher of Rizzolatti Islands, I sent him a copy of a drawing he sent me a nice mail. I’m grateful to Mr Dr Prof Simon Baron Cohen I sent him a copy of my drawings in a University degree study, he sent me a very nice mail, I donated a painting to Mrs Dr Prof Temple Grandin, I’ve got her nice mail. They all inspired me. Thanks a lot to my friends out of which should be mentioned a bunch of nice psychologists, very cuddling, . I dedicate this matter to Pianise the small hous on the slope of Baldo Mountain on Garda Lake.

    I’m astonished.

    I can detect autiusm in the moment of birth

    i discovered this on 31 12 2016

    at midnight

    Emotions have no voice

    🙂

    Coments are welcome

    Bye

    Lorenzo

    Milan

    Italy

    Born 20 8 1959 Milan 10 hours AM

    Agricultural science Doctor
    Artist
    Fond of foreign languages

    that evening i just wanted to prepare my horoscope for 2017

    I like Prof Alan Turing the destroyer of ENIGMA

    🙂

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  2. Astrological diagnosis of Autism by means of natal wheel and charts…

    Nice people, I just tried to write in a better way the post.

    The cloud in the sky of my eccentric brain are moving fast

    a slight winf brings new White clouds and aquarius rules

    let’s try again and write, later on I could post the whole study, translated… :), I’m waiting for the nice translation

    good morning to all of You. I’m autistic,
    I’m Lorenzo Maria,
    I noticed I am able to make a diagnosis of autism by means of natal wheel chart and natal theme. I use this study. I collected the data of 20 autistics. I calculated natal themes natal wheels,… . I made a table xls document. In 1st column the names or nicknames of the 20 Asperger or Autistics. In the following 12 columns on top the name and number of each one of the twelve houses of the sky of the natal wheels. What did I put in the cases in the table xls? I put for each single autistic person the name of the planet(s) found in each house of the Birth sky.
    What did I find? I found … a surprise.
    Telepathy or intuition, I’m Myers Briggs INTJ profile, I’m IQ 150, autistic telepathic.
    I’ve got moon in pisces against mars in virgo (= total warrior) and netpune in scorpio squared to mercury in leo ( telepathy, paranoia). I am born on 20 Aug 1959 in Milan Italy at 10.00 AM.
    So what’s the findings?
    There are more or less 10 planets plus noplanet, there are these planets: sun moon Venus mercure mars jupiter saturn uranus neptune pluto noplanet; there are 12 houses: each house has a meaning.

    Natal Charts with most planets in left upper part are autistic, since upper part is away from warm cuddle of mother and left part of the sky is away from friendship and friends.

    Most autistics have between 1 and ten “marker” combinations or patterns due to combined planets and houses. The possible combinations are 11×12= 132, the autism marker combinations are only 27. If You’ve got more than 5 marker combinations You are probably autistic. I’ve got 9 marker combinations: in 9 cases out of ten I’ve got in my natal wheel chatrt a planet in a house which is a frequent combination for autistics (frequent: fiound at least 3-4 times in 20 autistics)

    So what’s a combination? A combination of a planet and a house of the natal wheel sky. What’s a marker combination ? An odd combination with meanings of autism (to be read on astrology books) which is to be found frequently (at least 3-4 times) in a study with 20 specific autistic people of whom I knew data of birth, date month year day hor town, and of whom I draw the natal wheel chart and wrote the natal theme.

    How many are all combinations? 10 planets + 1 noplanet = 11 x 12 houses of the ntal sky = 132 combinations

    how many combinations are frequent in autistic panel ? 27 (I guess I had written 22 but actually it’s 27)

    So the marker combinations are found oddly frequently in usd autistics. Please try it by Yourself, I would like to CHECK YOUR DATA. It would help! Please try and intereact if You whish! Otherways I’ll feel like a Marble castle flying on top of a metheorite in a Magritte painting at high speed and at not so much distance from Mars 🙂 🙂 🙂

    The marker combinations are
    neptune 1st house, upper reality invisible to Others
    jupiter 1st house huge limitations in life development of life
    jupiter in 2nd rich, with barriers
    neptune 3rd house no brotherhood
    moon 4rth looks for cuddles desperately, lack of oxytocin, lack of mother
    saturn 4rth (important marker) no parents , isolated, sad, rationalist, great fatigue, tiredness
    pluto 4rth outsider Genius black sheep
    jupiter 5fth stalker, heavy in talks, with barriers
    moon in fifth sensitive, romantic, blood of broken love
    uranus in 5th new topics, quick, devoted to today
    neptune in 6th art, creative, neurosis, sufferings
    uranus in 6th dynamic, hand skills, today, war against bosses
    moon in 7th looks for cuddling help / oxytocyn, neurosis, broken love
    no planet in 8th ( death house>) , no emotional resilience no political leader, refuses society

    uranus in 9th researcher, unusual, brain of stone,
    mercure in Xth (important marker) detached from family, high IQ (like me) indipendent
    sun in tenth house means in the natal wheel chart : indipendent no tradition, no bondage no bonds, isolation
    mercure in XI: (very important marker of autism) : rational balance, highest IQ, no love
    sun in XIth house: balance. loss of friends
    it’s also a frequent marker of autism. Marker of autism means detected at least 3 times in 20 autistic cases, very high marker means detected at least four times in 20 autistic peolpe’s natal themes.

    moon in XI: trouble of mind, no friends
    mars in XI as I have: total warrior, indipendent, projects as battles, the “Patton of mind””each project as a tank in Patton’s troops”
    pluto in XI as I have: secret ego, Genius, psychic troubles, outsider
    sun in XII: high marker, very frequent in autism: means in natal wheel chart: outsider, lonely, original, introverted
    jupiter XII: means: lonely, sad in the eyes of others, misantrpopic, refusal of life
    mars in XII: atheistic, war against highest ideals, anarchist, destroyer
    mercury in XII IQ, but highest ideals, irony, humour, ousider, detached, not diplomatic. (!)

    so I have ten planets, 12 houses, 1 combination of “no planet” in a certain house, 11 planet solutions (10 planets plus no planet in a certain house)

    So I have 132 possible combinations of planets and houses in my natal wheel.

    Se when I’m born I know how many marker combinations I have, if I have eg 6 autism marker combinations, or 7, I’m autistic.

    Stellium in all cases is marker of stress. Stellium in X XI XII is highly frequently likned to autism.

    All test were repeated on about 100 autistics

    More or less 40 non autistics showed planet distribution where all planets are in a round circle, one two planets for each house.

    Autistics do aften have squares.

    Autistics do often have stelliums

    autistics have more than 5 marker combinations (planets/houses)

    the marker combinations are frequently slighty anti-social and odd

    This is the method

    In checked a dyslexic, planets are opposite, in a corner , …low down right in that part of the sky. I checked a Bipolar friend, planets are in a corner left down down part. In a schizophrenic most planets were in the upper right part.

    That’s it.

    I dedicated this study to Professor Alan Turing the destroyer of Enygma

    I see his horse , gallopping in the heath, among blue heathers

    I am sad

    I feel isolated with these nice findings

    🙂

    What do You think?

    It might prof of help

    Very early autism diagnosis by means of Junghian natal astro wheels and natal themes of astrology.

    There can be an informatic version of this method.

    Maybe Mr Dr Zuckerberg will get a glance and he will get down from the top of his sugar mountain to give help (Zuckerberg=Sugar Mountain)

    I guess Alan Turing can’t help any more

    requiescat

    Who knows anybody who could get this study and comunicate it to others?

    Thanks a lot

    nice regards!

    Lorenzo Maria

    Milano

    In the mid of the Lands

    Study performed at midnight on 31thg december 2016

    Emotion has no voice

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    1. Hi, ehm, what about the wheather in Laredo taday? Here in Milan it’s raining finally at last. I like the moment, I like Colorado, where Temple Grandin works, I like Boston, where my nephew studies, I like Los Angeles, the town of his girl friend,…, Temple Grandin was born in Boston, the world is getting small, time to look for new planets 🙂 🙂 🙂 What about my Pluto? Lonely Pluto, not even Saturn likes him… 🙂

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  3. Another thing we have in common! 😉 I had a major obsession with astrology at one point and had charts done. One was a more psychological one and was a little close to the bone. I re-read it recently with a different Aspie perspective and one thing struck me immediately. It was a clear description of Aspergers. Weird or what. My logical brain cannot fathom how that can be, it doesnt make sense, but there it is.

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    1. Omg!! Cool!!! Ok, so are you a Virgo too? Because this is just too eerie (Ina really cool and fascinating way) how we have so much in common (!). (INTJ, Aspie, female, married to ND males, etc etc) 🤗💓👍🏼👍🏼

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      1. Dear Ladies, Dear Friends, so I’m in the same boat, in the tempest however or in a quiet sea,
        Male 57 INTJ, very specific INTJ, AQ 37 EQ 15 IQ 150, Most planets in Virgo ,
        most planets in XI th house, as I told before,
        born 20 August 1959 10 00 a.m. Milan (Italy Hour)
        for Virgo it’s now the attack by Saturn in Sagittarius, source of worrying. My Pluto should be out of it, the attack meant legal traoubles in a soft metaphorical way, my Venus has overcome the opposition of Saturn in Sagittarius, I’m afraid I don’t care about what happens to my Venus, unfortunately I’m a single man without oxytocyn, I skip the page love in horoscopes. But Mars remains under attack , mars in Virgo under attack from Saturn in Sagittarius, until december the 31th, in some days very odd, I’ve got Mars around in the neighbourhood of the 13th September or in that area, that sounds quite terrible, I should loose somebody or something, On 13th September loosing something, well I hope to gain friends. Keeping quite Mars in Virgo while it’s permanently in my genes, that it’s under attack from moon in Pisces (total warrior) how can I keen queit mars the total warrior? Shall I listen to Chopin, shall I paint? Dear friends, You are nice, I presume the post was not for me, I feel a Leo-Virgo 🙂

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    2. Astrology is super-fascinating to me; it’s almost like I get glimpse/hinty-like flashbacks to an ancient previous life when I study it. Do you feel comfortable sending me your birth data privately, as in through the contact page at the top that emails me? I can send you mine too, and we could totally compare notes 🤗💙💜

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  4. I will dig out a chart later and scan it in. Don’t mind at all. Not a sunsign virgo, but virgo asc. with pluto in first, venus in 10th, mercury retrograde, uranus 2nd house, neptune 3rd, sun conj. mercury. Quite a few similarities! I will send it over once I figure out how 😉

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    1. You’re awesome!! I got the synopsis of your data (thank you!!) and sent you mine as well – very interesting connections! Really neat info we’re gathering, just by comparing notes 😁🌷🌺

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      1. I HAD A VISION

        Why don’t we all go To Mrs Dr Prof Diana Powell dealing about telepathy, what we see in astrology is not seen by most people, Temple Grandin has got she too most planets in Virgo and a huge powerful Stellium in Virgo Virgo Virgo we see the patterns, why not to use this to help new born babies in checking their situation?

        Please Laina, If You are a Virgo You are rational, what I say sounds rational, I’ve got Mars in Virgo, Mars is a warrior You are an Archer, Fling the arrow You lovely ARCHER 🙂

        Sometimes it is the people no one imagines anything of
        who do the things no one can imagine
        ALAN TURING

        Andy Warhol has got the Stellium in Leo and Leo is just the nice neighbour of Virgo
        Putin has got the huge stellium in Libra and Libra is the other nice neighbour of Virgo, Oh Virgo

        OK, anyone wants to come over to Italy to chat about this?

        We might have a Midsummernight’s dream 🙂

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    2. Good Morning Nice Ladies,

      I come from an interesting weekend. Sun rising fast in the fogs of rational minds.
      This happeded to me in the two days. I met an person, I will say a translator of spanish poetry (Cervantes) linving in Luxemburg, female, 43 years old, I knew she was very swift accurate smart in languages a good mind a beautiful mind I knew she was Aspie, I told her I think You have got a cluster of planets 3 or 4 planets, in houses from 9 to 12.
      She gave me he data of birth, I used Astrolab and astrologando, I got a glance: Stellium in 8 house with 4 planets and as guessed before by me also a huge Stellium in XI house as guessed by me with three strong significant planets.

      Now I am able to diagnose autism in real time to the great surprise of the interested people. I feel so lonely, Neuropsychiatry in Italy doesn’t like astrology,
      Parents don’t like astrology, religious peolpe don’t, atheistics are hyperrational they hate in Italy astrology, engineers (there are 7 in my family ) hate astrology, others smile at me, please help 🙂

      I feel isolated and anxiety is generated from being a total outsider, anxiety results in not sleeping thoroughly in the morning, I can wake up at 9.40 but I wake up at seven. I’d like to relax, what can You tell me please dear Laina?

      iT’S SO NICE, i GUESS, i PREDICT, STARS SPEAK BUT i SPEAK BEFORE STARS SPEAK, i LIKE yOUR PRESENCE, SILENT WAVE 🙂 🙂

      Like a Bridge over troubled waters You will ease my mind 🙂

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